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Post by Cam! on Nov 20, 2010 7:37:36 GMT
What are your thoughts on abortion? Do you think it is right? Do you think it is wrong? Thoughts? Opinions? Feedback?
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Post by ooop on Nov 20, 2010 12:50:02 GMT
Abortion is murder, it should be against the law. *keeps an eye on this thread* =o Glad to see you didn't quit completely though
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Post by Nightwalker on Nov 20, 2010 14:00:59 GMT
I agree with oop. Abortion is murder and should be against the law.
Also mods you might want to keep an eye on this thread because it might get heated.
I look at abortion the way it is. It doesn't matter if the kid is an accident. I feel really sorry for the woman if she was raped and now has a kid but that doesn't give her the right to kill it. If she wasn't raped then the baby isn't an accident. She was involved with creating the baby and no matter what she thinks she did to keep her from having a baby she still did it.
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Post by ooop on Nov 20, 2010 14:08:46 GMT
I agree with you Night "Also mods you might want to keep an eye..." That's what I ment when I said *keeps an eye on this thread*
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Post by hbk on Nov 20, 2010 18:54:54 GMT
If that is what the parents want, then that is up to them, although everyone deserves the right to live - they could always give their unwanted baby to childcare...
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Post by Nightwalker on Nov 20, 2010 21:43:47 GMT
But if the parents wanted to kill their 2 year old baby you would have a different opinion right?
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Post by edenwax on Nov 20, 2010 21:57:59 GMT
Mostly, abortion is bad. It is killing no matter how old the fetus is. The only time I think it should be used, is for rape victims. I think a child is worse off being born, if conceived via such an evil, maniacal crime. A child would most likely be subject to neglect / rejection, which no-one deserves to go through.
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Post by Nightwalker on Nov 20, 2010 22:01:34 GMT
Colin by saying that you are saying that i should go to the worst part of town pick 5 random kids and put them out of their misery.
Just because the mom was raped doesn't automatically mean that the kid should be dead.
If the mom really doesn't want the kid there is something called adoption.
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Post by ooop on Nov 20, 2010 22:03:03 GMT
Night is saying all the right things in my opinion.
Killing an unborn child is equivalent to killing a 15 year old child.
It's the exact same, I would consider doctors that perform those procedures, murderers... Would you not?
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Post by edenwax on Nov 20, 2010 22:35:20 GMT
Colin by saying that you are saying that i should go to the worst part of town pick 5 random kids and put them out of their misery. Just because the mom was raped doesn't automatically mean that the kid should be dead. If the mom really doesn't want the kid there is something called adoption. I do understand where you are coming from, but you read it totally wrong. I think abortion should only be an option to rape victims. Not that they should be, but that it should be an option. Rape is something that effects people mentally to a very great degree. And the child born would go very likely go through a life of hell. Not that I support abortion at all, it's a terrible thing. But if the event was traumatic enough, why birth a child subject to neglect, hatred, and loneliness. That's another kind of hell altogether.
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Post by hbk on Nov 21, 2010 1:04:11 GMT
But if the parents wanted to kill their 2 year old baby you would have a different opinion right? Right, but then it is seen as murdering, as the child has then been born.
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Post by Nightwalker on Nov 21, 2010 1:14:45 GMT
I have heard many people who have come from bad places and become great. You are just predicting the future and saying, "This kid will probably live through hell." Well just because he might live through hell doesn't mean you should have the right to murder him. If you are strung out on drugs i can say that you will probably live a life of hell but that doesn't give me the right to kill you.
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Post by edenwax on Nov 21, 2010 1:33:47 GMT
I have heard many people who have come from bad places and become great. You are just predicting the future and saying, "This kid will probably live through hell." Well just because he might live through hell doesn't mean you should have the right to murder him. If you are strung out on drugs i can say that you will probably live a life of hell but that doesn't give me the right to kill you. Again, took it right out of context. I personally know people who have been through that kind of life. They are awesome people, they turned out to be very great. However if you asked them, many of them would have rather died. It's depressing, but it's the world we live in. Im not "predicting the future". I'm referencing from what happens now. At this very moment there are kids going through this. Im not saying "they're gonna live a shitty life, might as well kill them anyway", I'm saying we're better off preventing this kind of thing from happening. It's just a depressing subject all around. This is our world.
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Post by ooop on Nov 21, 2010 1:50:20 GMT
This too is a very hard subject to discuss..
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Post by xcessive on Nov 21, 2010 2:09:02 GMT
Explain why abortion is murder.
Whoever said a foetus is alive?
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Post by ooop on Nov 21, 2010 3:49:16 GMT
It's a human being
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Post by xcessive on Nov 21, 2010 5:14:04 GMT
Are you so narcissistic that you think just because you believe something it makes it true? Prove that its a human being.And if you somehow manage to prove it is: An embryo is, in the most basic terms a collection of cells (or in the beginning a single cell) each with equal genetic contributions from its mother and father. A sperm cell is a cell with a compliment of genes from whomever created it. Thus one could suggest that sperm cells and embryos are very similar (which they are). You produced millions of sperm a week, and if you dont use them, your body literally kills them and absorbs them, and if you do use them, all but one die. Thus you are committing genocide EVERY DAY. So if you really believe that abortion is murder because an unborn embryo is a human being, cut off your own testicles. Otherwise you are a hypocrite and are committing genocide and then eating your victims every second of every day for the rest of your life
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