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Post by ooop on Nov 29, 2010 12:48:20 GMT
In my opinion the big bang theory makes absolutely no sense
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Post by edenwax on Feb 14, 2011 4:25:27 GMT
Holy crap. xcessive did I ever mention that you are amazing?
(I didnt actually read your responses, because of their length until, now)
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Post by xcessive on Feb 14, 2011 10:21:29 GMT
Holy crap. xcessive did I ever mention that you are amazing? (I didnt actually read your responses, because of their length until, now) Heh Why thank you. People tend not too read most of my longer posts, which is what makes communication hard for me in text based mediums - ironically.
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Post by hbk on Feb 20, 2011 7:25:11 GMT
In my opinion the big bang theory makes absolutely no sense I'll go by my Atheist belief, so bare with me that it may seem 'wrong' to you: If there was a God, many things that happen in life simply would not happen.
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Post by xcessive on Feb 21, 2011 9:26:25 GMT
In my opinion the big bang theory makes absolutely no sense I'll go by my Atheist belief, so bare with me that it may seem 'wrong' to you: If there was a God, many things that happen in life simply would not happen.The fact is: if God did turn out to be real, he would have to be completely indifferent, or one of the most incredibly evil entities imaginable to allow what he allows.
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Post by hbk on Feb 21, 2011 18:11:33 GMT
Exactly.
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Post by Nick on Mar 1, 2011 4:55:07 GMT
We may have a god. But chances are our 'god' is a teen computer junkie in the far future at a science fair showing off his new program called Life v4.7
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Post by hbk on Mar 14, 2011 1:39:29 GMT
Maybe it's better than the one I'm living.
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Post by xcessive on Mar 27, 2011 1:55:33 GMT
I think I might share some of my more recent musings on this and see what people make of them.
Having said all this I still think there is an argument for A God, although perhaps not in the way most would conceive of. You need to understand I use the term God very loosely. I mean by it some sort of higher intelligence. Not a power or "being". Let me explain. We know that the human brain is made of billions of neurons, none of which are touching. They are separate, yet communicating. Furthermore there are many regions of the brain that process specific groups of things; for example the precentral gyrus is known for motor initiation and somatic mapping, Broca's area is important for hand gestures and motor control in speech - etc. The point is this; the brain has many disparate functions, but where does it all come together? At what place does it become consciousness, the fundamental "I"? The best answer modern Neuroscience has been able to come up with may not please you, nevertheless it is that the mere processing of data as a unit, gives rise to the experience of a conscience, and the idea of the ego, the me, whatever you want to call it. Simply put, the facets create the whole without need of a singularity or convergence point. Given this assumption think on this: if all our brains are separate and are processing "as a whole" the same reality (which minor Einsteinian differences, but lets ignore these as they are inconsequential) does that mean that our collective intelligence would give rise to a higher conscience? Are we collectively all a "God"? Personally I think there would be nothing more fitting than this. The universe created us from star-stuff, intricate patterns built up over time, through chance and oppertunity and error we came to be. And now, in the very act of arguing the existence of a God, in trying to validate out own ephemeral and entirely unprovable existence we create "God". Not a benevolent creator, nor a wicked dictator, but instead whatever we are, our collective thoughts and dreams.
Perhaps we are the raw material that evolved to form this higher consciousness. Much like our own cells - maybe - if they could think they might think they are an individual in a great community, when really they are only the units that make up our existence. First there was mere RNA, the beginning of a great tree of evolution. Then came cells that housed the newly altered form of RNA known as DNA. Then these cells made up organisms, and now perhaps organisms make up something else. Why can these "millions of years of evolution" not progress towards another level of intelligence? Of course I don't actually believe any of this, and I certainly wouldn't waste my time trying to prove it, I am just trying to make people think. Its more of a verbose and bombastic troll (I can't think of a better word) than anything else. Still, its a nice thought.
I have, however, strayed away from science, and into half supported speculation. But if that is not the fuel of Philosophy, I don't know what is.
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Post by Nick on Mar 27, 2011 15:05:03 GMT
Wow! I really like your post!
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Post by edenwax on Mar 28, 2011 4:58:18 GMT
^^ This. Very well put.
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Post by xcessive on Mar 28, 2011 14:20:18 GMT
Anything to add?
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Post by Nick on Mar 29, 2011 6:25:01 GMT
Funny you should ask! I recently made a 3bit minecraft calculator. It can add and subtract!!! My view on religion is that it can be a really good thing for some people to believe in. I think religion gives a lot of people hope which is good. Another point; humans dont want to die, so they created heaven in their minds that theyd go to once they died. Then they made hell when their kids were rude or not listening to them to make them behave Sorry this post isnt that good, but my ipod isnt my favorite thing to write on. Ill probably make another post tomorrow, but until then, this kind of gives my general idea.
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Post by Dalton on Apr 2, 2011 3:13:37 GMT
Im a deist. I am sure there is a powerful creator. But Im not sure its the God Christians go on about.
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Post by Cam! on Apr 2, 2011 4:02:32 GMT
Im a deist. I am sure there is a powerful creator. But Im not sure its the God Christians go on about. That's the first time I have ever heard of a deist. My brother is agnostic. Most of my friends are atheists. Most of my family are Christians. I am Christian.
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Post by Dalton on Apr 2, 2011 4:18:07 GMT
Most of our Founding Fathers were Deists. Hence why they used words like "Creator" instead of God in the Declaration of Independence. For More info en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
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Post by xcessive on Apr 2, 2011 23:56:06 GMT
Einstein was a Deist.
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