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Post by Kenneth on Aug 2, 2011 2:27:35 GMT
Who in their right mind is fighting about a chatbox? Where trying to give you reasons why it was removed and you keep saying that staff is contradicting it...
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Post by Mark Knight Day on Aug 2, 2011 2:31:16 GMT
So you're saying you'll happily give up H5nework and just make it a chat-box? I'm sure Luke isn't doing this just for chatbox, you've got to remember it could have gotten abused and I remember guests were always asking for support in it and not the actual code support board we have here. Removing it was for the better, yes it may have been "fun" for the members but so far no one has complained other than you..... The activity has increased a lot here and I'm probably guessing people are more happy. There was always fights in that chatbox... H5 Network has nothing to do with the feedback board. I'd never expect someone would go so low as to talk about other forums on this one.
[/b] Wow, what a way to make someone feel good about them selves. I remember you saying something about people's comments in this thread www.forum.coderscom.net/index.cgi?board=tl&action=display&thread=3064 .....
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Post by rickace on Aug 2, 2011 2:34:07 GMT
H5 Network has nothing to do with the feedback board. I'd never expect someone would go so low as to talk about other forums on this one.
[/b] Wow, what a way to make someone feel good about them selves. I remember you saying something about people's comments in this thread www.forum.coderscom.net/index.cgi?board=tl&action=display&thread=3064 ..... [/quote] Fail. What I said here has nothing that is inappropriate. Truth is, you went the lowly route to accomplish your goals, unlike kenneth and I, who were having a decent discussion.
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Post by Kenneth on Aug 2, 2011 2:35:18 GMT
Funny how this thread kinda got off topic now...
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Post by Cam! on Aug 2, 2011 2:44:35 GMT
Wow, you really misinterpreted Rick's post. He was just joking around with his mortal enemies friends. *Attempt to stay on-topic* I personally think that we should have "Live Chat" on the menu link to the chat box page or we can create a page on here and put the chat box on it if you would like to keep it on cC. That would be much better considering the current live chat doesn't load for many people, crashes browsers, etc.
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Post by Kenneth on Aug 2, 2011 2:53:10 GMT
Sorry if you guy's didn't want the link here but hey look what I found. codercommunity.chatango.com/I mean you guy's could just open that in a new tab and chat all you want...
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Post by rickace on Aug 2, 2011 2:53:30 GMT
Wow, you really misinterpreted Rick's post. He was just joking around with his mortal enemies friends. *Attempt to stay on-topic* I personally think that we should have "Live Chat" on the menu link to the chat box page or we can create a page on here and put the chat box on it if you would like to keep it on cC. That would be much better considering the current live chat doesn't load for many people, crashes browsers, etc. That sounds great. Maybe we could have it on the main page but you have to click for it to unhide. You're very right about the current live chat. I struggled so much to talk to be on it, I gave up.
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Post by Cam! on Aug 2, 2011 3:14:06 GMT
Sorry if you guy's didn't want the link here but hey look what I found. codercommunity.chatango.com/I mean you guy's could just open that in a new tab and chat all you want... That wasn't lost. We could do what you're suggesting on any chat box. The point behind my suggestion is that the there would still be some kind of way to get to the chat box through codersCommunity.
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Post by rickace on Aug 2, 2011 3:16:25 GMT
Besides, if everyone went to that link, the forum is dead.
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Post by edenwax on Aug 2, 2011 3:35:58 GMT
So you're saying you'll happily give up H5nework and just make it a chat-box? I'm sure Luke isn't doing this just for chatbox, you've got to remember it could have gotten abused and I remember guests were always asking for support in it and not the actual code support board we have here. Removing it was for the better, yes it may have been "fun" for the members but so far no one has complained other than you..... The activity has increased a lot here and I'm probably guessing people are more happy. There was always fights in that chatbox... H5 Network has nothing to do with the feedback board. I'd never expect someone would go so low as to talk about other forums on this one. Now we have a new set of reasons. Besides the fact that the next poster might contradict it, as it's been happening all day. I've never seen these fights, and these constant support requests. Then you're saying the chat box is active? People are saying it was removed for being inactive. I'm honestly confused now. Well the chat box wasn't inactive, codersCommunity itself was. That was the problem, so to help boost post count on the forum we removed the chat box to help bring activity to the forum. If it means that much to our members to have a chatbox, we will gladly bring it back. For instance we could remove the Live Chat option in the menu and add a link to the chatango there instead.
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Post by rickace on Aug 2, 2011 13:38:26 GMT
H5 Network has nothing to do with the feedback board. I'd never expect someone would go so low as to talk about other forums on this one. Now we have a new set of reasons. Besides the fact that the next poster might contradict it, as it's been happening all day. I've never seen these fights, and these constant support requests. Then you're saying the chat box is active? People are saying it was removed for being inactive. I'm honestly confused now. Well the chat box wasn't inactive, codersCommunity itself was. That was the problem, so to help boost post count on the forum we removed the chat box to help bring activity to the forum. If it means that much to our members to have a chatbox, we will gladly bring it back. For instance we could remove the Live Chat option in the menu and add a link to the chatango there instead. That's the total opposite of the other reasons given to me: 1) The Inactive C-Box was an eyesore. - Ken 2) It was becoming inactive - ZINC. Well, in any case members did enjoyed the chat. No one actually argued because they were being loyal to ZINC. That's not a bad thing, but if you're loyal to everything, you'll end up killing the forum.
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Post by Kenneth on Aug 2, 2011 15:50:38 GMT
Why does this still matter? In my honest opinion Rick I think your just trying to challenge staff to see if their abusing their privileges and you think they are when they're not.
Like you said if people would leave to another link it would drop forum activity, the same way if people would spend more time Chatting on the box they'd spend less time posting in the forums, and that's my argument on why it would loose forum activity you said it your self with the if they would go to another link the forum would die, same basics.
I don't know why we have to continue this debate over a chat box...
As for the Chat box link, Members who really want it can throw it in their sig, Make it their custom title, add an image to it what ever.
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Post by Justin on Aug 2, 2011 16:16:25 GMT
Personally, no offence Luke, I wasn't loyal to Luke, I hated him :b (But not anymore). And I did agree with him on removing the chatbox, why?, because it was a completely stupid piece of junk that I really disliked (: I have argued with him on many many occasions though.
So I think that "Loyal to ZINC" thing can be blown out, removing the chatbox was something that had to be done , and I'm being honest here, I left the forum long ago because of the chatbox, it was full of nothing but arguments, and hate, It left I came back.
And I have seen many forums die from a chatbox, why? Only thing people know how to do in them is argue, which turns away guests, who wants to be a part of a forum filled with arguments? I wouldn't.
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Post by rickace on Aug 2, 2011 17:08:49 GMT
@ kenneth You're taking it to a whole new level. You're acting like this is some kind of revolt now. You changed from the decent conversation we had last night. So I'm not going to reply to what you just said. Justin I honestly, didn't see much of these fights. You wouldn't close a forum because of fights? You'd just break it up, and ban the arguers.
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Post by Justin on Aug 2, 2011 18:32:24 GMT
Banning them always doesn't help, then you have their friends to deal with saying "it was unfair, blah blah blah" , I've seen it on multiple forums, its better to just not have a chatbox.
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Post by rickace on Aug 2, 2011 18:40:46 GMT
Banning them always doesn't help, then you have their friends to deal with saying "it was unfair, blah blah blah" , I've seen it on multiple forums, its better to just not have a chatbox. That's possible. But in any case, it wouldn't be too different than having them on forums.
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Post by Justin on Aug 3, 2011 2:04:11 GMT
True, but on the forums the moderators/admins can see what happens, on the chatbox they can be gone, someone can have a huge fight, and the mods/admins won't even notice, if that were to happen on the forums they would notice and can just delete the post and warn all members involved.
Yes if they were to ban them they would still deal with their friends saying "he did nothing wrong blah blah blah". But atleast in the forum (if you didn't delete the argument threads) you could show them exactly why they were banned, can't do that in chatbox, you can take a screenshot of it, but they'll say it was "photoshopped" if you can directly link them, they have no argument.
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